Indeed, from an 867 start, the strongest duke in the area is Dyre the stranger, who finds himself in the weird position if he forms the kingdom of adopting the dynasty symbol of one of his major rivals as his kingdom's symbol.Īsking for historical coats of arms to be restored is meaningless - there were no fixed historical coats of arms at the start dates of the game, as they hadn't come into use yet as a systemic method of identification. Kievan Rus (as the smaller polity) is represented as the kingdom of Ruthenia, also with the Rurikid trident, despite the fact that there's a strong chance that it won't be formed by a Rurikid at all. Click to expand.The Rurikids still have their trident, although in a slightly different form, so no, the dynasty has not had it removed.